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ReplyDeleteThis needs to be read by everyone! We know there are MANY different opinions about this issue but we were OUTRAGED by the publishing of actual NAMES of delinquent home owners of their membership dues. THIS should NOT be PUBLIC knowledge. If this email went to anyone that is NOT an actual home owner that could easily be taken as defamation of character.
We moved into this neighborhood with the assumption of how 'nice' a neighborhood it was (by nice we mean KIND neighbors!!!) WHERE is kindness in this action??? Instead of asking these neighbors to come to the board to explain why they haven't paid why doesn't a member of the board PHYSICALLY go to the neighbors home and ask them if there is anything that can be done to rectify the situation instead of SHAMING them in an email for the REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE!!!
Call us OUTRAGED neighbors and we know we are NOT alone in this!!!!
I agree with you that this should be read by everyone. The maintenance fund is every homeowners business. That is why we have a financial report each month. Why is your OUTRAGE not enough for you to identify yourself? So, let us speak in generalities.
ReplyDelete1. Communication works both ways
2. The homeowners listed are not new to the list, about the same people each year
3. There have been multiple attempts to notify them, with no response, that they need to pay the fee, by:
a. Email (treated as spam)
b. Hand delivery to house (won’t come to door)
c. US Mail (trashed)
d. Phone - Voice Mail (deleted)
e. Face to Face in some cases (lied to)
Never in the past FIVE months have any of the listed homeowners come forward to explain why they have not paid or attempted to communicate that they have issues and make an arrangement to get the fees paid. It is the responsibility of the homeowner to pay the fee in a timely manner and in most cases FIVE months is not considered timely. If you recall the invoice is June was for $75 and there was an offer to accept payment in three installments. There were no takers. We all know that $75 is about what it would cost you for a good meal for two at a fine restaurant. It is my opinion they choose not to pay.
If you would like to volunteer to be the KINDLY fee collector for the maintenance fund just let us know.
Aubrey Hayes
Now not only are you shaming them for this year but you are NOW PUBLICLY shaming them for years past! Wow....this is beyond sad....and if $75 is so minimal an amount for you then maybe you and a few other home owners that it is minimal for could pitch in to HELP THY NEIGHBOR! $75 to this family is NOT a good meal for two...it is a tank of gas to get to work for a week so we can provide food for our family to EAT for the week! In this economy $75 is a LOT of $ to most people. Wow...just wow....guess you have never fell on hard times?? You are lucky if you have not!
ReplyDeleteDo you realize seriously that any one of those home owners could pursue legal actions if their names were read by someone who is NOT a home owner? OR if heaven forbid a mistake was made? And believe you me, mistakes can be made!
Why are we anonymous? Thought that was why you guys allowed the anonymous posting...so people could post their opinions...although it is funny that it has to still be approved by you!!! So really where is the 'freedom' in that?
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ReplyDeleteAre you suggesting a mistake was made? No one has said that they need assistance in making the annual payment of the maintenance fee as it is less than 21 cents a day.
ReplyDeleteIf you wish to make a donation to pay the delinquent fees let us know we will accept cash if you wish to remain anonymous.
We are stating that one COULD have been made. That it is a possibility. Your 'generalities' are not provable. How do you know they deleted voice mails? How do you know they threw anything in the trash unless you are rummaging through their trash? You made generalities, so we made one...that a mistake COULD have been made. As also that email COULD have been read by a NON HOME OWNER and that my friend IS a violation of their rights. What would you think if your name were listed in an email about a bill you were late on and was read by people you know. Don't think you would be very appreciative of that. Much less your neighbors seeing that! Shame is NOT the way to get people to pay!!! Shame ONLY causes people to run, and puts animosity between them and you....shouldn't we be trying to UNITE the neighborhood instead of drawing division?
ReplyDeleteYou have been offered the job of collecting the fees or making a donation and as far as I can see you have chose neither.
ReplyDeleteThere is a rampant use of poor grammar and unnecessary capitalization in these posts, as well as false outrage and passive-aggressive postings. As someone who doesn't subscribe to the blog, but checks it every once in a while, I cannot seem to find a list of names, so it appears they have been removed. The inclusion in any email could be considered an oversight, one that a proofreader likely would have caught.
ReplyDeleteThat said, the only mention of fees I can find are listed that they can be set by the Board of Governors (presently at $75, despite covenants limiting them to $50 per lot/yr) and are collected in June. There do not appear to be processes for delinquent payment, non-payment or collection methods defined. With that in mind, it may do well to be careful not to publish any names, just for the sake of the neighborhood and its maintenance fund. File your liens and call it a day. At that point it's public information anyway.
You are ignoring the issue that this could put the whole neighborhood at risk by a law suit! Plus it is just wrong and not the way this should be handled! Rest assured that if we had the ability to pay the past due fees we would!!! And how do you know if we have not made a donation for the past due fees...maybe it was put in the neighborhood box...you did say cash didn't you? What reassurance is there that if a cash payment were made it would be applied to anyone's fees?
ReplyDeleteThis will be our last post...but maybe in the future people who might be considering moving into our neighborhood will think twice because they would not want their PERSONAL affairs to be made known to their neighbors. That is what is the saddest part about this.
If you are reading the covenants then you know the $50 limit is for the lake, not the neighborhood. The yearly maintenance fee for the neighborhood is set at the meeting in May by those homeowners attending.
ReplyDeleteCash in an envelope found in the drop box with a name of who's account to credit has been received. I don't know if it was the person or someone making a donation. If you read the reports you would have seen a cash item being deposited.
You are ignoring the issue that they owe the fees and have done nothing about it in five months. You are also ignoring that the job to be collector is open to you so that it can be done correctly.
The rampant use of poor grammar and unnecessary capitalization in these posts, as well as false outrage and passive-aggressive postings. The capitalization in these posts was started by you but the poor grammar is mine and there is no false outrage or passive-aggressive postings on my part.
Just wanted to clarify. Why the capitalization? To make the points that we wanted to make. Not passive-aggressive on my part only heart felt outrage! That part is true. We are allowed to make our point and if we feel the need to make it we will.
ReplyDeleteAnd to clarify where the names were 'posted' was in the email that went out, not on here. (Thank goodness!) That is the danger, people that may not be members of this neighborhood (such as non home owners but renters) could have read that email and, and hence the neighbor's names that are listed!
I agree, do what you have to do with those home owners that you feel deserve it and call it a day but do not publicly shame them in such a way.
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